Episode 267

Utopian/Dystopian Play w/ Matthew Leggatt

July 23rd, 2026

1 hr 7 mins 58 secs

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About this Episode

Philip welcomes Matthew Leggatt, author of Play in Utopian and Dystopian Fiction and Wastelands and Wonderlands: Utopias and Dystopias in Film & Literature to the show. In their conversation, they discuss how the way utopia/dystopia is framed in our literature, media and film impact how we see our future possibilities.

The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.

Philip’s Drop:
Columbus and Other Cannibals – Jack D. Forbes

Matthews’s Drop:
“The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas” – Ursula K. Leguin

“Ones Who Stay and Fight” – N.K. Jemison

The Grasshopper: Games, Life and Utopia – Bernard Suits