Episode 267
Utopian/Dystopian Play w/ Matthew Leggatt
July 23rd, 2026
1 hr 7 mins 58 secs
About this Episode
Philip welcomes Matthew Leggatt, author of Play in Utopian and Dystopian Fiction and Wastelands and Wonderlands: Utopias and Dystopias in Film & Literature to the show. In their conversation, they discuss how the way utopia/dystopia is framed in our literature, media and film impact how we see our future possibilities.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Columbus and Other Cannibals – Jack D. Forbes
Matthews’s Drop:
“The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas” – Ursula K. Leguin
“Ones Who Stay and Fight” – N.K. Jemison
The Grasshopper: Games, Life and Utopia – Bernard Suits